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organic living journey, deli meats

The following is part of an Organic Journey Guest Post Series, written by Amy a long time helper behind the scenes of Southern Savers.

I prep lunch for three little ones daily so I must say I appreciate deli meat immensely.  Leftovers are scarce in my house (and are normally eaten on the weekend so that I don’t have to cook.  Can I get an amen?) and pb&j is off the table due to a child with a severe nut allergy.  So, as I learned about nitrites I became increasingly disheartened.  Where are my easy deli meats that are good for us?  Where is my simple lunch meat that is not overly processed and still affordable?  Tonight I went to my Publix and for an hour I read labels, talked to the deli staff, butchers, and even the store manager got involved.  After that and a phone call to a leading deli meat manufacturer, here’s what I discovered.

First off, you’ve got to know what you are wanting and what you are wanting to avoid.  When you start reading labels promoting different benefits it is easy to forget what they are lacking.  It is necessary to walk in well aware of what you want.  After learning that nitrites can cause cancer, alzheimer’s, diabetes, and even headaches, I know that this is something that I don’t want to be giving to my family often.  I am concerned as well about the overuse of antibiotics given to animals and how that is potentially affecting the growth of superbugs.  I also don’t like when my deli turkey has more ingredients listed than pieces of turkey in the package, and I don’t like when half of the ingredients are words I can’t even pronounce.  I don’t want mechanically separated meat.  It’s disgusting.  Remember hearing about pink slime?  Yep.  That’s mechanically separated stuff.  If you read the description of it from the USDA, you won’t want to eat it knowingly again. Promise.  So that’s what’s on my deli meat wish list.

While at Publix, I started at the deli counter because my gut says, “more expensive equals better.”  Am I the only one that feels that way?  I asked which was better, Boar’s Head or the store brand and was quickly answered that Boar’s Head is more nutritious.  Boar’s Head will email you a list of all their products that have no nitrites added, which is helpful (though I wish they would just post that information online for all to easily see!).  Turns out the bulk of their non-pork products are nitrites added.  To me, this is the big advantage of buying Boar’s Head.  No fillers, no nitrites added.  You still have to read the labels though as dextrose, sugar, and natural flavors were listed on one type that I saw.  The downside of the meat available at my deli counter was that it was all conventionally raised meat.  There was no organic option.  No antibiotic-free choice.  No info about what these animals were eating, and where there is no info, I have begun to assume the worst.  My thinking is, if you are taking time to do more expensive things to produce a better product, aren’t you going to advertise it to the hilt?  And if you aren’t, won’t you just play up your other positives and leave those questions by the wayside?

My next stop was the higher end section of prepackaged deli meat from Boar’s Head and other brands (including the store brand).  When I asked what the difference was, I was told that there was no difference at all.  Some people don’t want to wait in line for their meat to be cut, so they just grab this and go.  Further investigation with another employee rendered a whole different result.  In all prepackaged deli meat that I saw, there was some sort of nitrite added (either those found naturally occurring or in the chemical compound form).  In order for this meat to be prepackaged it has to be preserved with something.  Fillers are used to make the deli meat slice up into pretty circles that are stuck together and not falling apart (can you imagine cutting some Thanksgiving turkey and getting such beautiful slices?).  Another clue that preservatives are being used is that this meat will last 1-2 weeks after opening the package.  Freshly cut meat from the deli lasts 3 days.

From the higher end of prepackaged meats, I went to the main section of the meat aisle.  Mercy.  I was assaulted by over a hundred different kinds of deli meat.  And friends, I was so discouraged by what I read on the packaging.  May we all be mindful that just because it says “all natural” or something similar and costs more, we don’t need to assume that it is good for us.  One major brand with a line of “natural” products actually had corn syrup as the second ingredient.  We’ve got to read!

I was however, massively encouraged by Applegate’s prepackaged deli meats.  The roasted turkey was made with turkey, water, salt and carrageenan (from seaweed).  Carrageenan is used to hold the meat together, and from all I can find, there isn’t any big worries in consuming seaweed.  Even Applegate’s regular, non-organic line of products is antibiotic free.  The cost is comparable to Boar’s Head.  I will say though, you really do have to use this meat fast once you open it because it goes bad quickly.  A phone call to Applegate confirmed that there are no naturally occurring nitrites in the prepackaged turkey which would explain why it goes bad so fast.  So there is a big happy dance happening in our house right now!  We found a no nitrites added, antibiotic free, humanely raised deli meat that is affordable.  It even goes on sale and you can find coupons too!!  I’ve been able to get 7 ounces for $2.50 after a sale and coupons.

So next time you are standing in front of the deli counter or the long aisle of deli meats, here are some questions to ask yourself.  How are they preserving this meat?  Are there natural occurring or chemical nitrites involved?  Can I pronounce the ingredients on the label and do I know what they are?  What exactly has the animal that I’m eating been eating?  Has that pig, cow, chicken, or turkey been given antibiotics?  Am I getting what I’m paying for or am I being suckered by good marketing?  And press on, sometimes there is good news at the end of our researching!

Next week, we are going to dive into the world of beef.  What’s the big deal about grass-fed beef and why is buying a cow becoming a new trend.  For now, what healthy deli meat options do you have where you live?

    • JESSICAAMMONS

      This is great info, thank you so much for doing all that research! I’d pretty much quit buying deli meat as my husband and I take leftovers most days. but it’s nice to have a turkey sandwhich occasionally. :)

    • Jessica

      thank you for this! but i have a question.. i always buy boars head.. would you say that the Applegate brand is better more healthy?? I would love to get the best.. and i am soo thankful for your time you took to investigate this! (i have bought boars head due to my investigation but would love a cheaper BETTER option!:)

      • amysanders

        for me personally, yes, i would say that the applegate is a better option for two reasons. one, the animals have not been given antibiotics. boar’s head’s animals most likely have (when there is silence on that topic, the odds are good that you’ve got overly antibiotic’ed animals.) they are on equal grounds as far as the nitrites go. the big question is the carrageenan (in the applegate) which several have commented might not be as neutral as i thought it was. more research forthcoming! also, i would ask to see the ingredients on the particular boar’s head product you are buying. the oven gold turkey had added sugars and natural flavors. just an interesting tidbit.

        • jessica

          thank you so much for your response! although urg:) i feel as thought we can never win.. wish i lived on a farm!:) haha! again thank you and i enjoy all these posts.. off to do BH research!

          • amysanders

            good luck! i hope you have good success and are encouraged by what you find!

    • Kris

      Just to warn you, though carrageenan is derived from seaweed, it comes with its own issues. Two members of my family are allergic to it, ranging from minor stomach discomfort to intense pain when it is ingested. We have a very difficult time finding certain items without carrageenan (good luck finding whipping cream without it added!) We found out what was causing them the stomach issues after doing some Google searching of ingredients and symptoms. Apparently a lot of people are having issues with it, things like stomach issues, migranes, and skin issues, from what I have read. On the bright side, no carrageenan, no problems, so it is an easy fix. Thanks for all your articles, we’ve really been enjoying them!

      carrageenan

      • amysanders

        thank you for the warning (and the kind manner that it was given!) i will definitely look into this more. was it a pretty instantaneous response for your family? and from your research, is it one of those things that if you don’t have issues with it, it’s fine? thank you!! still learning more every single day!

        • Kris

          My husband has a reaction within one to two hours. I was starting to get quite a complex about my cooking until we realized it was the almond milk he was drinking at dinner each night. He had stomach aches every single night until Dr. Google figured it out. From internet searches, I’ve seen the full range of responses. Some people posting seem to think it’s poison, some think it’s completely innocuous. I haven’t reacted to it, nor has one of my kids. If it didn’t affect the other two in our family, I personally haven’t seen evidence enough to weed it all out (there are so many other things we are already avoiding!). But I know very little about it, and am not really sure how accurate the internet sources are. I know it’s in a lot of dairy (some sour creams, yogurts, cottage cheese, ice creams), a lot of almond milk/soy milk type drinks. We watch lunch meats, toothpaste, and I’m sure I’m forgetting some things. It would be wonderful if there was an option for lunch meat without anything added, but I guess it just wouldn’t last long enough on the store shelves to be profitable. Which is why we can’t get whipped cream without driving an hour to a Whole Foods. (Worth it!) Thank you again for all your research, it has helped us (and many many other families I’m sure) tremendously!

          • amysanders

            thanks. that is super helpful info. and i’m with you…if no one is complaining, i’m just going to hope for the best. (especially since i’m dairy free due to allergies and haven’t reacted to the almond milk!)

    • Lisa

      Some studies have shown carrageenan to be linked to serious gastrointestinal inflammation and colon cancer – See more at: http://www.cornucopia.org/carrageenan/

    • shelleyschu

      Thank you for all the research. I will start looking at labels more closely!

    • Shelley

      You could always just buy extra organic chicken and eggs and make your own chicken salad and egg salad as other options.

      • amysanders

        shelley, great suggestion! i actually did that this week. :) i made chicken salad with my leftover whole chicken meat. my problem is that my nearly two year old is hitting the picky eating stage and he LOVES turkey and chicken/egg salads get spit out. i’m just trying to find some better options for those days when i just need an easy button. :)

        • shelley

          Yeah that’s hard stage. I call that the consistency stage. No ‘creamy salads’ or cheese cake, etc. Mine grew out of it, hopefully yours will too. Now they love all 3-chicken, egg, and tuna. Grilled cheese, and oven toasted pizzas are good too. I make my own with regular bread, leftover spaghetti sauce and cheese. My youngest loves bologna, so I limit him..one week I buy it, then I go a couple of weeks and don’t.

          • amysanders

            great name for it!! my older two have grown out of it (and this is a new one for the toddler–he loved this kind of stuff just a month ago)–so, i’m not worried about it long term. it is a season, and it will pass. thanks for the other ideas too. love this community!!

    • Allison
    • Crystal

      I am loving this Organic Living series. We’ve been moving towards a whole foods diet and this series has helped so much. Thanks!

      • amysanders

        crystal, thank you! we’re in it together!

    • Maria

      Yes, but be careful with the carrageenan…it can make inflamation worse. So for people with certain stomach/bowl issues, potentially arthritis, etc….you’ll want to avoid it. It is was one of very few ingredients that can be not organic and in an organic item. It seems sketchy to me, so I try to avoid it.

      • amysanders

        thanks for the kind warning. i didn’t research carrageenan intently…so it looks like i have some more work to do on this one. always learning.

        • TheChapLeigh

          You know, I’ve often wondered if that sushi I’m eating, with seaweed wrapped around the roll, is significantly tainted by waste-water from ships, polluted rainwater/river run-off, etc etc etc. It never ends, does it?? There’s always something lurking around the corner that’s to be proven bad… and that’s such a downer :(

          • amysanders

            i always feel like i’m drawn back to this: we live in a fallen, broken world. :(

    • Christen Sparks

      I am loving this series, have learned so much! You have really helped me on my journey to feed our family more whole, healthy foods!
      I have a question about the Boar’s head deli counter meat, we get Boar’s head turkey from time to time, but if it has nitrites added I want to stop buying it. I was confused as to whether Boar’s head meats have nitrites added or not; this is from the paragraph about Boar’s head deli counter meats: “Turns out the bulk of their non-pork products are nitrites added. To me, this is the big advantage of buying Boar’s Head. No fillers, no nitrites added.”

      • amysanders

        The best way to know for sure is to ask to look at the label or to call Boar’s Head and ask about the specific meats you are buying. That said, the BH representative said that the bulk of their products are made without the addition of nitrites except for some of their pork products. Your best bet, read the label or call to be 100% sure. Does that make more sense?

        • Christen Sparks

          Yes, thank you!

          • amysanders

            no problem!

    • Missy

      This series has definitely caused me to change my purchasing habits for my family. I now buy only organic eggs, milk and meat. Thanks for the information! I’d love to know more about purchasing poultry and beef directly from farms. Can’t wait until next week’s post on beef!

      • Tiffiny

        Missy, if you go to your local farmers market you’ll find local farmers and they’ll usually let you see their farm and even buy from them!

    • Guest

      Roast a turkey breast, ham, chicken, whatever you want. Cheaper, tastes better and better quality. Easy. Avoid processed meats.

    • TheChapLeigh

      What a great topic! I rarely eat lunchmeats anymore — exception being Applegate and at Jason’s Deli – where they advertise organic (need further info, however) — Same with Moe’s — I”ll opt for the beef “Joey bag of donuts” – yum! In our home, we usually get our “sandwich fixes” from chicken salad, where I know what’s in it. I recently decided “no more Subway” — no matter what kind of day we may be having.

      I do remember a friend’s mom often making meatloaf sandwiches… though I can’t remember at all what that might have tasted like, if it was dry or not…. maybe that’s an option??? We also have fried-egg open-faced sandwiches or McMuffin style. We just don’t eat traditional deli meats often, and our lunches could be considered dinnertime meals — thus I’m incredibly busy in the kitchen. We are constantly eating leftovers, as I’ve found it’s the best way to afford to eat within our health goals.

      Bummer about Boar’s Head. For a moment there, I was hopeful… but now, Not so much.

      • katkoupon

        Bummed about the Boar’s Head too. I don’t have any Applegate Deli meats at my Kroger, however, I did notice some of the packaged meats on closeout…so I’m hoping they are getting ready for some new products (come on Applegate!)

    • Sue

      What about the meats from Whole Foods?? I thought they were free of all tjat nasty stfd. Their turkey ham (turkey seasoned like ham) is about $8 a pound.

      • Sue

        Oops. Didn’t proofread. :) “free of all that nasty stuff”

      • amysanders

        Sue, I didn’t go to Whole Foods because I don’t have one super close to my house. You can always use that list of questions at the end of the post to find out if what you are buying is free of all that nasty stuff. ;)

    • Donna

      Thank you for all your posts – very interesting, informative and helpful. I really do appreciate your work.

    • heather

      So I am loving the organic series. It is very informative. Even before reading this a lady at the grocery store one day told me that hey are you going to feed that meat to your kids I had just ordered a bunch of boars head from the deli. She proceeded to tell me about nitrates something that I had never heard of. I did buy my meat but researched it further. Now I buy organic turkey breasts or whole chickens. I roast it on Sunday and slice it for sandwiches that week for my kids lunches. I can’t get it as thin as deli meat and my kids did complain at first that it was “too thick” but now they love it. I am not sure if investing in an electric knife would make it thinner but it is super easy to do.

    • denise

      i’ve been sick the past couple days and have had more time to sit and watch tv. i have come across several shows on netflix that talk about this stuff and i was CLUELESS up until the past couple of days. i’m feeling overwhelmed on where to start when it comes to giving my family better foods so THANK U so much for your posts. can’t wait to read the next one on beef :)

    • bgraff

      I believe Boar’s Head does have a line of deli meat that has no antibiotics. It is the “All Natural” BH line. http://boarshead.com/products/all-natural/348-all-nat-unc-smkd-ham

    • Angela in Summerville, SC

      Amy, bless you for doing all this research and communicating it in a way we can all understand. It’s so reassuring to read these posts and everyone’s comments, and to know I’m not alone in facing these challenging nutrition issues. My 1/8 of a cow is ordered and paid for, and I should be getting it next week! :)

      • Where did you order your cow?

      • TheChapLeigh

        Just make sure you do your research on how to properly COOK grassfed meat — it is much leaner, and thus you will need to adjust your preparation of it. I had a family share the purchase of a cow with us, and they were GREATLY disappointed… but I am confident it was because they weren’t aware of the differences in cooking grass-fed beef. Also, not all grass-fed beef will taste the same — it’s dependent upon what grasses those cows have access to… so you may want to sample various farmers’ beef. We have 3 places that our family can buy the grass-fed beef. I choose to buy a half-cow from the farmer who sells it cheapest, yet his is not nearly as tasty as the other two farmers’ beef. If I run out, I know I can purchase individual cuts from the other two farmers, but I could NEVER afford to buy a half-cow from them. I just make sure that i carefully prepare the beef (ie, tenderize, marinate, or seer the beef prior to making stews, etc) and it has not been a problem for my family ;) Hope you enjoy your 1/8 cow!

      • amysanders

        yay!! enjoy your cow. we have so loved buying parts of a cow, and i have found some really yummy recipes for cube steak meat. (who knew!?)

    • Melissa

      At my local BJs they sell the Applegate line. They sell the lunch meat hotdogs. The prices were really good they compared to the other brands.

    • Christina

      Thanks so much for this post! Really appreciate you sharing your research with us!

      Do you have any thoughts on the Hormel naturals kind? Their deli turkey meat has the following ingredients:

      Turkey Breast Meat, Water, Salt, Potato Starch, Turbinado Sugar, Rice
      Starch, Carrageenan (from seaweed), Baking Soda, Celery Juice Powder, Lactic Acid Starter Culture (not from Milk).

      • amysanders

        the celery juice powder and lactic acid is what makes the naturally occuring nitrites. also, it is like boar’s head in that it is just conventional meat. (still given antibiotics, still fed who knows what.) so, it is a step in the right direction, but there are better options too. does that make sense?

        • Christina

          Yes, it does! That’s so true, thanks so much!

    • twin

      Thanks so much for this series! I’m a couponer but am concerned about what I eat. I’ve been trying to investigate what are generally the cheapest prices for organic, humanely raised eggs and meat in the atlanta area. If you (or anyone else reading this comment) have any tips on where to get the best prices for these items, please let me know! I’m on a very, very tight budget and my family goes through eggs like crazy. So far I’ve found that local farms, at their cheapest, sell pasture-raised eggs at $4 a dozen! If possible, I would love some sort of weekly run down on what stores have the best prices for organic items. But thanks again for all that you already do!

      • TheChapLeigh

        Hey there! I would like to add in my two cents on this topic. For years now we have been raising our own backyard flock, mainly for the purposes of the eggs. I have found that truly, only eggs bought directly from a farmer that you know allow the hens to free-range (and have great access to grasses & bugs), will have the yummy bright orange nutritional yolks that you are really wanting. Many times I’ve bought eggs from farmer friends whose hens are in cooped up areas (since my hens may not have been laying at that time, & I thought they were at least better than store-bought “free-range” — because that label implies greater health but the reality is usually vastly different, either due to false advertising or the hens may not go out the ONE door available to them, or that door may only open to a concrete “porch” area), but in comparison to my own eggs, the cooped up farmer-friend’s eggs are NOT the same — the yolks are more yellow & they don’t stay intact when frying. Keep that in mind when buying from the store — I’ve YET to find eggs that compare to my own — be they “organic” or not. Due to increasing concern about GMO’s in our diet & the unknown longterm effects on our health & environment (and the unbelievable stories I’ve learned about the big “GMO cover-up” in Europe & more recently here — scientists fired for attempting to publish their findings, etc)… anyway, we have switched all of our animal feed for organic. Organic feed is incredibly expensive… and hard to find in my area. So, if you can find a dozen truly grass-pastured organic eggs for $4.00, grab those up and commit to the farmer that you will gratefully buy from him/her whenever possible. They are like GOLD!! That said, I cannot imagine not having our own eggs, because we go through a ton!!

        • You’re right…$4 is a steal. We live just outside Atlanta and buy our eggs and raw milk from a farm. We pay $7.75 for a dozen eggs. They too use 100% feed and they are truly “pasture raised”. We see them wandering the way they should be when we go pick up our eggs and milk every week. We too live on a tight budget and I’ve been a couponer for years thanks to Southern Savers, but you’d be amazed that while you may be spending more on some foods, you end up saving elsewhere when you cut out all that processed food. And you just start making a lot of your stuff homemade and that saves money as well as worry as to what may be in the food. eatwild.com is a great website to find a local farm in your area and I also just discovered naturesgardendelivered.com.

        • TheChapLeigh

          oh wow, I just went to the “100 days of real food” website & saw a post on just this topic! You should check it out to see the actual color differences of store-bought organic and farmer’s market eggs…. a great resource for those who need some explanations about eggs — myself included!!

        • amysanders

          well said, friend. i will say this, we get eggs from a local farmer. the eggs are in a pen, but are fed scraps from the farmer’s organic garden and organic feed to supplement when scraps are low. they eggs aren’t truly grass-pastured, but they are tremendously different from even organic eggs we get at the grocery store. i can tell a huge different in taste and in my daughter’s allergic response (none to those from the farmer more from EVERYTHING else.) so, i’m not totally opposed to chickens in a cage outside as long as they have plenty of room to be chickens (can move and are eating good stuff.) does that make sense?

          • TheChaplLeigh

            Absolutely makes sense :) I guess what I meant to say about the farmer friends’ chickens, was that they were cooped and only ate the feed, or free-ranged within an area without much nutritive value & thus really only ate feed. If, however, you’ve got cooped up birds that are getting lots of natural food stuff, then that contributes to the egg’s nutrition. Somewhere along the line, in my process of eating real food, the lightbulb went on for me that “just because these eggs come from a farmer doesn’t mean they are healthy”. Sounds crazy, but I really had to SEE the yolks of my own TRULY free-roaming around our contained woods, garden, pasture, etc. to understand the differences in store organic & farmers’ cooped-up eggs.

            Also, I noticed that these other farmers (think small backyard farmers, not CAFO types) had eggs whose shells were a really weird brownish color… I mean, really OFF. One farmer said it’s all about the type of chicken you have, but I honestly think that these two farmer friends were feeding their chickens something that produced that coloring… after all, MY Rhode Island Reds don’t produce eggs of the colors that theirs do… it’ a suspicion of mine that there is some serious chemical additive in that feed…

            Again, thanks for all your research — I look forward to your posts every week!!

            • amysanders

              Thanks for the clarification. :)

      • Being someone who could not ever own her own chickens – so proud of those of you who do! – we buy our eggs, most times, from Costco – it’s two dozen organic eggs for 7.99 (it used to be 6.99 but was uped a few months ago). I have also noticed that when I was buying them from Kroger – I would get coupons on the Kroger’s line of organic eggs every now and then and that helped with cost. Hope that helps!

      • amysanders

        you could check out carlton farms, they deliver around atlanta. and i agree, $4/dozen is a steal of a deal in atlanta. sounds crazy, but it’s true. good food costs us something.

    • In my constant quest to feed my family more naturally and to avoid GMO’s, I was glad to find this meat and while Applegate is definitely better than the others, my concern was whether they use GMO’s in their feed and on the FAQ page, it addresses this:

      “A GMO is a Genetically Modified Organism. An organism is “genetically modified” if its genetic material has been changed in a way that does not occur under natural conditions through cross-breeding or natural recombination. We never use GMO feed in our Organic program and we try to use non-GMO feed in our Natural program as much as possible. Unfortunately we cannot guarantee 100% non-GMO feed in the Natural program due to an increasingly limited supply. Also, we don’t use any GMO ingredients in our Organic program. As you may know, GMO corn and soy are subsidized by the U.S. government, making it more abundant, and impacting the organic non-GMO feed supply through cross-pollination. But let’s be clear … all animals in our Organic program are fed a diet that is 100% free from GMOs. The requirements of the National Organic Program state that our livestock must be fed 100% Certified Organic feed that is free of genetically modified materials (GMO’s).”

      None of their freshly sliced deli meat is organic but you can get some in the pre-packaged meat. If you are trying to avoid GMO’s as well, make sure it is the organic line.

      • TheChapLeigh

        Thanks for the info!

        On a side-note, I think our country is only beginning to understand just how detrimental the GMO issue is…. we are so far behind Europe on this one, and when you dig further into that subject, it is truly astonishing to what lengths the truth about GMOs has been purposely hidden from the public.

      • amysanders

        excellent point! thanks!

    • Tiffiny

      thank you for posting! My publix that is a mile up the road doesn’t carry applegate, so i travel, out of my way, 15 min to go to the one that does! We have a health food store near us too and they also carry applegate, so it is about the best you can get for bacon and lunchmeat! I hope more of America becomes aware of their choices so we can all become healthier!

      • amysanders

        ask your manager if they will carry it for you. most of the time they will special order it. :)

    • Miranda

      So, i thought I was doing good by buying lunch meat that didn’t have nitrates “except those naturally occurring in celery” so that’s a bad thing after all? Am I understanding this right? This is so overwhelming.

      • amysanders

        if you have an option to avoid nitrites/nitrates, take it. things like hot dogs are pretty near impossible to find without some sort of nitrite in which case the naturally occurring is better than a chemical compound. i know it’s overwhelming. i’m sorry. baby steps, my friend. and realize, none of us will ever eat perfectly this side of heaven.

    • jacketfan24

      so grateful for this series! we are working on making these changes to our diet but it’s not always easy with a coupon budget. It still helps to know where the changes are most beneficial.

    • tori729

      Are there any other nitrate-free options other than Applegate and Boar’s Head? How about the Hormel Natural or the OM natural ones?

      • amysanders

        here’s what i wrote below about hormel naturals: “the celery juice powder and lactic acid is what makes the naturally occuring nitrites. also, it is like boar’s head in that it is just conventional meat. (still given antibiotics, still fed who knows what.) so, it is a step in the right direction, but there are better options too. does that make sense?” i don’t know anything about OM. sorry!

        • tori729

          That helps, thanks!

    • christine

      Great article! The best price I have found is at BJs, because they sell 2-packs for around $7. Sign up for Applegate’s email, and you get coupons. You can also call the company and ask them to mail you more.

    • Hi – I wanted to share this information on carageenan as Amy referenced it as an ingredient in the Applegate deli meat line. I read some information in Women’s Health and found similar caution in info from Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrageenan It is known to cause inflammation, which is never a good thing. I am still on the hunt for good deli meat that doesn’t have carageenan.

    • Kimberly

      Carageenan is believed to cause leaky gut syndrome. It is not a healthy options. I too feel really disgusted that is so impossible to find edible products these days. I have even tried to buy the whole turkey cook and cut into sandwich meats. These turkeys are also filled with all kinds of things. And also I was curious is applegates meat not perfectly round? Would that mean filler as well?

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      agreed, carageenan is not healthy. yes you can derive it from seaweed but that doesn’t make it automatically healthy. you can derive arsenic from apple seeds, so lets eat that too? If you are truly looking for healthier deli meats, try out Dietz & Watson’s Originals line. doesn’t get any simpler than that